Are You A Conductor?

Apr 02, 2013 1 Min Read
A Conductor out of the Chaos, can Create Order. Noise becomes Music

In 2004, I watched the first season of The Apprentice where Donald Trump fired a person each episode. It came to a climatic ending where only two people remained - Kwame Jackson and Bill Rancic. Donald Trump then fired Kwame and Bill became the first ever winner of the Apprentice.
Born and raised in Chicago, Bill Rancic was always an entrepreneur at heart. His first ever business venture was selling pancakes with his grandmother. He explains,

I learned how to make pancakes with my grandmother, who invited all her friends to brunch. When I was clearing the dishes I discovered that each blue-haired lady had left a $5 bill under her plate. I started begging my mom to take me to my grandmother’s every weekend.” Thus began his entrepreneurial and leadership journey.

Bill is coming to Malaysia in April and I am schedule to meet up with him to interview him on our “Leaderonomics Show”. Prior to our interview, I managed to connect with Bill via email and posed him a few questions about his leadership journey. One interesting comment he made was about what the role of a business leader was. Bill believes that

“to be successful, you have to think of yourself as an orchestra conductor. A conductor may not an expert at each instrument, but he knows how to make all of them work together harmoniously and make beautiful sound.”
Watch Roshan Thiran's discussion with Bill Rancic in May 2013

That got me thinking. How many business leaders are like orchestra conductors? Or are they more comfortable playing their ‘own’ instruments. Most orchestra conductors begin their career specialising in an instrument. However, to lead the orchestra, they ‘reinvent’ their role from specialist to conductor, ensuring all instruments are played perfectly at the right time to produce amazing music.

Orchestra conductor as leader?

Conducting an orchestra can be a model for team management, according to Itay Talgam, the authority on orchestra and leadership. At the World Economic Forum at Davos, Talgam postulated that through understanding the working methods of great conductors, you can learn “principles to lead.”
An orchestra conductor faces the ultimate leadership challenge: to create pure harmony without muttering a word. Talgam adds,

“A conductor out of the chaos, can create order. Noise becomes music.”

A business leader is similar as they need to create perfect ‘harmony’ in their business. In a TEDTalk, Talgam walks through the story of different conductors and their different styles. There is the commanding conductor (Riccardo Muti), who led his orchestra through authority but it resulted in unhappy people. In fact, he received a letter signed by all 700 musicians of La Scala asking him to resign. Why? Because he didn’t let his musician develop. They felt treated as instruments, not as partners. The same can be said of some authoritative bosses, who are commanding but have extremely unhappy employees.

Watch Talgram's TED Talk below:

Talgam goes on to describe a few more ‘types’ of conductors until he showcases the ‘perfect’ conductor – someone who allows each musician to express themselves freely, yet takes full control to ensure nothing goes wrong. Talgam even shows a clip when things go wrong for this ‘perfect’ conductor--his trombonist goes off. He doesn’t panic but gently re-directs him back to the right path, ensuring harmony prevails in his orchestra.

Understanding your team

Like an orchestra conductor, being a leader within an organisation bears the same challenges – trying to create perfect harmony amongst the different variables in your business to ensure your organisation creates ‘beautiful’ products and profits. According to Talgam, the best orchestra conductors understands their people, allows them to develop, treats them with respect, and yet gently nudges them towards the goal of making beautiful music.

Read More: The Power of Music
As a leader you might have a strategy as well written as a Mozart’s symphony, but if your orchestra is not well conducted, then noise will prevail over music. So, what are some leadership tips which we can learn from an orchestra conductor?

Top 10 Lessons from A Conductor

I have outlined the Top 10 lessons of leadership from an orchestra conductor (some lessons extracted from Michael Hyatt’s excellent piece on the Symphony Conductor):

  1. Great conductors always start with a musical score and a clear musical “vision” of how it should sound. Do you have a clear vision of your end goal? Do you have a plan (musical score) that will help you achieve your vision?
  2. Practice makes perfect – even in business. The best concerts are well rehearsed no matter how great the conductor is. Are you practicing your leadership? Or do you assume that you will automatically produce great leadership ‘music’ without practice?
  3. Great conductors get the best out of their people at the right time. They ensure their musicians feel significant, accepted and secure. A conductor needs his musicians. Likewise, a leader needs his followers and needs to take time to develop his followership.
  4. Great conductors lead with their heart and are passionate about their work. Are you passionate about the vision and mission of your organisation? Do you lead with passion and conviction? The leaders’ passion is infectious and generally seeps through the organisation.
  5. Great conductors are aware of their gestures and impact. They have to be precise or their musicians will not be able to follow. Everything done is intentional. Are you an intentional leader?
  6. Great conductors share the spotlight. When the concert is over, and the audience is clapping, the conductor turns to the audience and takes a bow. Great conductor immediately turns to their orchestra, inviting them to take the limelight. Without his orchestra, the conductor is nothing. Do you share your leadership glory with your team? Are you a leader that gives credit back to the team?
  7. Great conductors are not super-humans. They don’t do everything. In fact, they delegate everything to others who are better and more skilled. The pre-concert tuning is usually done by the concertmaster and other key chores are done by others. The conductor only appears on stage when it is time for him to lead. Great leaders know when to lead and when to let others lead. They delegate accordingly. Do you know when to take the lead?
  8. The conductor focuses on his task and keeps his back to the audience. Great leaders similarly keep their mind’s eye on things they are facing rather than worry about what is being said or done behind them. Steve Jobs is a definitive example of keeping his back to the audience. He didn't care about what people wanted; he made just products that would delight his audience. 
  9. The conductor usually stands on a platform and is visible to every single member of his orchestra. This is to ensure the orchestra stays in alignment. Are you a visible leader who is visible to your employees and your teams? Or are you not spending time with your team and causing misalignment across the business?
  10. Great conductors lead. Most musicians in the orchestra are much more talented that the conductor. They are experts in their musical instruments. They look to their conductor not for technical advice but for leadership. The same happens in organisations. Most leaders are NOT functional or technical experts. Most employees look up to them for leadership. They need to inspire, create excitement, have a clear vision and lead. Are you a leader?

Final Thoughts
Back to Bill Rancic and his story. I asked Bill how he managed to win The Apprentice? In his own words he said,

“by thinking through each task and changing my game plan when I had to.”

He went on to talk about how he displayed leadership which resulted in his victory. At the end of the day, Bill won because he managed to produce the best “music” for Trump. Just as a good orchestra conductor would. How about you? Are you conducting your team to success? Are you a good orchestra conductor? Are you a leader?

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Roshan is the Founder and “Kuli” of the Leaderonomics Group of companies. He believes that everyone can be a leader and "make a dent in the universe," in their own special ways. He is featured on TV, radio and numerous publications sharing the Science of Building Leaders and on leadership development. Follow him at


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